Ron Paul: Extortionist

Posted: February 17th, 2011 by Militant Libertarian

by George Donnelly

At the recent conservative CPAC conference, Ron Paul made an offer. Opt out of government, agree to take care of yourself and in return the government will only take 10 per cent of your earnings. As you can see in the above video, this offer met with some applause.

A Counteroffer

Allow me to make a counter-offer, because I have as much authority as Ron Paul to make offers like that. Allow people to opt out of government. Allow them to cooperate, trade, work together or generally do whatever they please as long as they don’t hurt anyone. In return, we shall pay absolutelynothing to your government, Ron. Why? Because these things are our birthright. To charge people for things they can get for free is the work of a scam artist. To demand monies be paid in return for nothing is the work of an extortionist. Ron Paul should be ashamed of himself.

What’s the Point, Ron?

Was Ron just being creative to make a point? But what point does he make? That we should forgo everything the state nominally owns, and then add to its coffers of ill-gotten gains? What is Ron thinking? Will the opt outs still be able to drive down the road, walk their dog down a sidewalk, use state universities? Or will the feds claim those as their own? His offer is broken. When you shop at Target instead of Wal-Mart, why would you keep paying Wal-Mart? It just doesn’t make sense.

Cult of Personality: Tedious

Am I being overly critical of Ron Paul? Is he a great guy who’s done more for liberty than X, Y or Z? Maybe. But the cult of personality around him requires constant tending. He is just a man, and therefore as prone to error as anyone else. His ideas are imperfect. He must constantly compromise his principles in order to remain in congress. He frequently speaks truth to power but that’s about it. If you want to bring liberty to a mainstream audience, you have to have your philosophy straight and your ideas consistent. Ron screwed it up.

Do you think his offer is a smart idea? Tell me why in the comments.

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  1. Hi George and All,

    Both Rand and Ron are introducing ideas and concepts that have been absent from any debate for far too long. The majority of the planetary population has absolutely no concept of self-rule and the Non-Aggression Principle. Much easier for us…you, me, Rand, Ron, Aaron, Lew, Tom, etc…to speak to them peacefully and hand them copies of Starving The Monkeys, Hologram of Liberty, Atlas Shrugged, and the like…versus just waiting til they’re kicking down our doors while looting and burning the neighborhoods, towns, and cities to the ground…before we resist, refuse, and terminate their aggression with extreme prejudice.

    However, they should all know right up front, that self-defense is a basic human right that millions will exercise at their own individual time, place, and discretion.

    The looters and their hordes of bureaucrats, enforcers, and mercenaries have been repeatedly advised of the error of their ways and respectfully requested to cease, desist, and end their neighbor versus neighbor looterfest. Many have already chosen a different and more peaceful path…others, not so much.

    If Rand and Ron spoke their true heart’s desires…they would immediately be blackballed and blacklisted from the mainstream media. Some have commented on Rand Paul being the new and improved John Fitzgerald Kennedy and we are inclined to think he could indeed stir a majority of the nation…but then again, Rand is a true friend and Brother in Liberty and we would hate for him to suffer the same fateful CIA assassination that was dealt out to JFK for his disobedience to the global-elite money-master grand-overlords.

    Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
    John and Dagny Galt
    Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe.(tm)

    .

    • Aaron says:

      Ron Paul is a libertarian and I respect him for that. George and I are anarchists. The primary difference being the idea of self-rule versus limited government. Libertarians believe in government, anarchists don’t. That’s the core of it. What George is proposing here is that Ron’s idea could be replaced with another: no tax, no gov.

      As for Rand, I’m not convinced that he’s anything like his dad. He has some similar tendencies, but he seems to be a Reaganite Republican, not a libertarian. In short, Rand is not Ron. He’s still better than Orrin Hatch, Dick Cheney, or Nancy Pelosi, of course, but people need to be clear that he’s not a younger version of his dad. He’s more authoritarian.

      • As was noted previously, many activists are sincerely participating as students and advocates working towards the goal of self-rule anarchism following the Non-Aggression Principle.

        Here is a recent interview between John Stossel and Ron Paul:

        http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=40829

        For those of us who have been at this for decades, having these ideas and concepts spoken and talked about in the mainstream media is a HUGE success towards our goals of convincing others that peaceful voluntary interaction between human beings is paramount.

        Here is a piece from Per Bylund at STR, please also read his previous piece and John deLaubenfels response as well for more context:

        http://www.strike-the-root.com/rejoinder-on-evil-minarchism

        Also, here is Rand Paul with Gwen Ifill on PBS:

        http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=40806

        For reference:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Ifill

        Again, it cannot be stated enough…having these ideas and concepts being talked about on Fox’s cable channel is one accomplishment, but having Gwen and Rand on PBS going out to every Tom, Dick, and Harry with just an antenna…now THAT is definitely a success.

        You cannot adequately explain the message of peaceful coexistence with most people until you have pulled back the curtain and shown them the inner-workings, aggression, force, and fraud of so many of the world’s current GUNvernments.

        We want them to leave us alone, and we want them to understand why basic human rights of Life, Liberty, and Property SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. We want them to come to understand why the looters, bureaucrats, enforcers, and mercenaries will increasingly be resisted, refused, and outright rejected.

        John and Gwen are assisting Rand and Ron with the soapbox part.

        The Pauls and an increasing number are working the ballotbox angle.

        FIJA and it’s chapters, advocates, and activists are educating the people on the street to effect more Fully Informed Juries.

        And…unfortunately, there are those throughout our planet’s history who have had to resort to the cartridgebox in the face of murderous and genocidal aggression practiced by invaders, occupiers, bureaucrats, enforcers, and both freelance and state-subscribed mercenaries.

        Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
        John and Dagny Galt
        Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)

        .

  2. Mark says:

    The operative words were – Opt Out by “giving the government 10% of your income – BUT THEN, TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES.”

    I think Dr. Paul was suggesting that the younger generation/s ‘take personal responsibility for their own actions’ – by FORCING OUR GOVERNMENT TO FUND EVERYTHING ELSE ON A LIMITED BUDGET OF ONLY 10%.

    Dr. Paul has been trying for 30+ years to convince other Congressmen to stop blowing OUR dough on THEIR boneheaded pet programs, which Dr. Paul has continually proven are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Well, the other guys are not listening, and the citizens are addicted to paying these clowns to do OUR own thinking, planning, and managing of this countries assets.

    Dr. Paul is saying We’re getting mugged here, and we’re to distracted to see it. He’s also trying to get us to see that through Our ‘willfull actions, protests/demands’, we can FORCE OVERRIDE all the BS authority that rules US.

    • Honestly and humbling adding to Mark’s comments:

      You are correct that Dr. Paul is working very hard to pull back the curtain to show the mugging, looting, extortion, threats, and aggression of the GUNvernment. Said GUNvernment being made up of the Mobocracy Looters and their hordes of Bureaucrats, Enforcers, and Mercenaries.

      Obviously he couldn’t cover everything but he definitely has cracked the nut. Taxes consume significantly more than ten percent to begin with, but look at the devaluation of the dollar…the coin of the realm. Here is a quick example of just how much more than ten percent is currently being looted. In 2002, two people have $100K in cash. One puts the money in the bank and the other exchanges it for 25,000 troy ounces of physical silver. What is the current value of those 25,000 ounces of silver now that silver is in the $30.00 per ounce range? For the mathematically challenged, it now takes $750K worth of dollars to obtain 25,000 ounces of physical silver. Hey, do the math…have your compensations kept up with this devaluation…even slightly? The person making $10.00hr in 2002 could easily accept two ounces of physical silver for his or her valuable time and skill-set. The same person now needs to be making $60.00hr to be compensated with two ounces of physical silver. This is without even mentioning the continual manipulations of the metals markets to hold down the valuations. This is done mainly through faux silver, represented on paper alone…created from nothing just like the fiat dollars…sold into the markets on the peaks and then bought back to drive the valleys down even further.

      For those who do not understand the faux nature of most of the stock markets…there is little hope until they become more knowledgeable…but consider just one factor that would instantly devalue most brick and mortar companies by half or more…what if General Electric was required to be fully bonded for deconstruction and site clean-up for all of their facilities? Obviously their stocks would plummet…but those who live around their facilities would be more comfortable with what they aren’t leaving behind…mainly a vacant, contaminated, polluted building and surrounding areas.

      Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
      John and Dagny Galt
      Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)

      .

  3. Speaking of extortion, please read the following:

    http://www.possumliving.com/2011/02/getting-along-in-mexico.html

    Please note that that was written ten years ago and that many places, including Mexico, are less hospitable and more dangerous than they were ten years ago.

    The writer tells us that graft, bribery, and extortion are commonplace in much of the world. Different regions do it in different manners of course. In some regions the actors demand their loot in person…in places like America the actors vote to have bureaucrats and enforcers do the looting for them. The effects and results are much the same in any case.

    In a Free-Market for, let’s say, car-watching in and around centers of commerce…the costs would be continually driven down and the service would be driven up as well. Competition in the marketplace does that quite effectively and eliminates the shady characters at the street-thug level and at the GUNvernment-thug level.

    So, with parking, you’d probably have pay-lots both around town and just outside of town. Private taxis and buses would do their thing as well. You might even have a group of pay-lots out near the airports that would get together and build light rail into the city for the convenience of their valued customers. The ideas and solutions are wonderful and endless…without a GUNvernment to facilitate smoky, back-room dealings…enforced at GUNpoint.

    Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
    John and Dagny Galt
    Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)

    .

  4. ChrisDiamond says:

    I wondered about the proposal that Dr. Paul made at CPAC. I think it had more to do with getting people to think about the Welfare state being funded through taxation; the forcible theft of our earnings to subsidize those who cannot or will not earn their own living.

    Something to consider with regards to taxation is that, according to reports last year, only 47% of working Americans actually pay taxes. The other 53% essentially pay not federal income taxes. This is the result of the progressive income tax where those who do not have as much are subsidized by those who have just a little more. If every single worker paid 10%, I wonder what the net affect on tax revenues would be…

    We can discuss the legality or morality of taxation all day, and I bet we would agree right down the line, but the facts are that this government (and no government) will never operate without taxing the people’s money… despite how taxation was originally intended to occur in our country.

    So in the face of any other proposal by any other politician, this proposal sounds the best. A 10% tax would ‘starve the beast’ that is our federal government, forcing it to operate more within its Constitutional limits. It would essentially end the welfare state, reshape defense spending and foreign policy, and put much more freedom and responsibility for living back in the hands of We the People. It isn’t perfect, and no form of government will ever be perfect (not even anarchy or agorism). In light of these facts, I would support this notion, and be grateful that FINALLY we were moving much closer to true/full freedom than we ever will otherwise.

    My two cents…

  5. It is important to note that the biggest impediment to some such salvaging of America…is the supposed national debt.

    Millions absolutely refuse to be looted to pay even the interest on debt that they did NOT EVER agree to…and very rightly so…bravo!

    So America as we know it will be required to collapse, burn, and then the survivors will rebuild.

    The dollar is absolutely dead. Hopefully you’ve already read our earlier comment regarding the dollar’s bloodbath versus silver in just the years from 2002 to 2011.

    Who will the looters loot when looters are all that are left to loot?

    Side note: the Wisconsin Governor should immediately terminate every state employee! We agree with Bill Buppert

    http://militantlibertarian.org/2011/02/19/burn-baby-burn-government-workers-and-self-immolation/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbAqWA-dxvw

    Feel free to sing along…then help us make this mutha VIRAL!

    Get your cases of Starving The Monkeys TODAY!

    Starving The Monkeys and Ending The Looterfest,
    John and Dagny Galt
    Atlas Shrugged, Owners Manual For The Universe!(tm)

    .

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  7. RTO3 says:

    Ron Paul is not perfect and neither was his “Opt Out” suggestion, but he is one of the very few in our government that understands liberty and speaks out for it.

    In society you always have common needs and causes, which the founders understood would require some sort of direct tax from the people to support. Things such as roads and bridges, police, fire departments, etc are a must, unless you want to live like Jeremiah Johnson. These things cost money. However, I believe most of these things should be done at the community level, rather than state or federal. I believe in basic human rights also, as our founders did. However, they added this to their Declaration “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men…”

    Anarchy is not liberty, it is chaos. When I was young, one of my favorite bands was the Sex Pistols, they believed in Anarchy, but look how they ended up. It’s a nice concept for a young punk rocker, but when you grow up, wisdom should prevail.

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